My family's story.

[Jeffrey]

My real name is Brian. I picked Jeffrey as my user name because there are people who stalk me on the internet. Anyway....this is the story about how both of my only brothers died. Needless to say I've been struggling with life ever since.


http://www.drugfree.org/Memorials/Casey_and_Dave_Pease

[azfinfanmang]

Wow brother, my heart and prayers go out to you.
Please find solice here, you are surrounded by the best virtual family on the net.

Az

EDIT: If you ever need to talk, or have any questions about the site, please feel free to ask.

Also, it mentions that your dad worked for the phins at one point :up: nothing wrong with that at all

Very good to have you. You have just ventured upon a new family :yes:

[Jeffrey]

Thank you very much. I really feel welcome here, unlike other sites.

[Jeffrey]

This is a song that I think says it all basically.

Hatebreed "Unloved"

When it all ended there was nowhere to turn. I hid inside myself hoping someone would find me. That day never came. As the years passed the pain lessened. I thought your voice was silenced forever. I was wrong. This time there's no turning back. Emerge from a doorway at the end of a war inside my soul. There's no picking up where we left off and there will not be a future. I've died so many times inside. I've accepted this pain. And I can't look back now. I never will. You don't know. You don't care .You never have and you never will. You made me realize everything I've ever known of love was pain.
And the person you once were has died and rotted away. I've lived with this knife in my heart. As a reminder of what I can't be. All I know how to do is hate you. There is nothing you can ever say or do. You don't know.You don't care. You never have and you never will. You were never part of my life and you never will be. Unloved. I was born unloved.

[dolphindebby]

Welcome Brian.
Your family story is heart wrenching, but so much love from your dad.
I'm glad you joined our family here, you'll really love it.
All here are good people and are always willing to help in any way they can.
So, relax and enjoy the best site anywhere, bar none.:up:

[Jeffrey]

Welcome Brian.
Your family story is heart wrenching, but so much love from your dad.
I'm glad you joined our family here, you'll really love it.
All here are good people and are always willing to help in any way they can.
So, relax and enjoy the best site anywhere, bar none.:up:

Thanks for the warm welcome and the support. I need all the help I can get right now. I seriously feel like I am losing my mind.

[SICK]

Brian. i am the oldest of 4 children, and have a 20 month old son. please know i feel so much pain for your losses, and has hit home with me. i could not imagine what you have gone through in your life, and continue to go through. i will pray and send good thoughts to you and your family. i am so glad you joined us on this site.....we are all like family here.....if you need anything. private message me here, or email me blitznlb33@aol.com

my name is chris. and its a absolute pleasure to meet you bro. stay strong.....and we will all try to help you if you need anything at all.

welcome to thephins btw.....go dolphins! hope they finish this season strong. and congrats on graduating from nova!!!!

p.s.- why would someone be stalking you? if you dont mind me asking...

[Jeffrey]

Brian. i am the oldest of 4 children, and have a 20 month old son. please know i feel so much pain for your losses, and has hit home with me. i could not imagine what you have gone through in your life, and continue to go through. i will pray and send good thoughts to you and your family. i am so glad you joined us on this site.....we are all like family here.....if you need anything. private message me here, or email me blitznlb33@aol.com

my name is chris. and its a absolute pleasure to meet you bro. stay strong.....and we will all try to help you if you need anything at all.

welcome to thephins btw.....go dolphins! hope they finish this season strong. and congrats on graduating from nova!!!!

p.s.- why would someone be stalking you? if you dont mind me asking...

Thank you for your thoughts and prayers Chris. It means a lot to me. I feel like the Dolphins are part of my family. My brothers were as big of a fan as I am, and we all watched the games every Sunday. One of my favorite memories of my brother Casey is when we went to the 2000 Monday Night Miracle game against the Jets. My dad was able to get us tickets through a connection he had, and we ended up sitting next to Oronde Gadsdens cousins! We talked with them for most of the game. When all the Jets fans started leaving the stadium because the score was 30-7?, we went down to the lower level. It seemed like moving away from Oronde's cousins was like a bad omen for the team. Anyway, after the game we drove home and I honestly don't think one word was spoken. It was a painful game to witness, but a special memory that I will always hold in my heart.

[gunn34]

Thanks for sharing. Hopefully you will live the life they should have. Your dad shared a touching story. Thank you.

[Ohiophinphan]

Good luck and welcome aboard. This is a different place where people treat each other with respect and affection. It is a good place to be.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks Chaplain. You are a man of few words it seems.

[Fin Fan In Cali]

Thanks Chaplain. You are a man of few words it seems.Pastor Keith is one of the greatest men on this site brother.:up: I think the post you left in the suicide thread could of been better in support. Pastor Keith really puts a lot of time and effort into helping the family here. He is a awesome person to turn to, should you need that in your life. Prayers and thoughts are with you and your family. Sorry for your loss.

[Jeffrey]

Pastor Keith is one of the greatest men on this site brother.:up: I think the post you left in the suicide thread could of been better in support. Pastor Keith really puts a lot of time and effort into helping the family here. He is a awesome person to turn to, should you need that in your life. Prayers and thoughts are with you and your family. Sorry for your loss.

I don't know what post you are referring to. I just thought it was odd that the Chaplain didn't acknowledge what my post was about. That's all.

[Ohiophinphan]

Thanks Chaplain. You are a man of few words it seems.

I don't know what post you are referring to. I just thought it was odd that the Chaplain didn't acknowledge what my post was about. That's all.

Fair enough.

I am not sure what I could or should say. The story in the paper is intense and defies an easy "answer". Besides, I didn't see a "question" to respond to so I didn't

Please know though, from the first moment I read it, I added you and your family to my prayers. The situation is tragic. I have no idea what emotions are running through you at this point? Anger, grief, depression, denial, ..... All require differant answers at differant times.

We will be here if and when you wish to process any or all of them.

[Jeffrey]

Any negative emotion you can possibly think of. You name it........thats what I'm going through. And I just spoke with my brother Dave's friend Jack yesterday for the first time in years. He told me what really happened to Dave in NYC that night on May 25, 1997. The story that was given to us by his "friends" was not true.

Here is the real story. My brother Dave drank a bottle of overproof rum that he had just won on a bet. He made a bet with his boss (who was a Knicks fan) that the Heat would beat the Knicks in the 97 playoffs. The Knicks took a 3-1 game lead, and then Miami came back to win the series in 7 games. My brother chose overproof rum. Anyway, he and his friend finished the bottle and then went down to NYC. The story that we were given is that he went into the bathroom with some people he had just met, came back to the bar and said he had "just done some stuff" and collapsed. This is what really happened. Dave took a shot of heroin and immediately fell out. His "friends" proceeded to leave him on the sidewalk in a bad part of town in NYC. They left him there to die. Dave's wallet was stolen and he had a gash on his forehead, as if someone hit him. They just left him on the sidewalk and continued partying. This happened around midnight. My brother didn't get brought to the hospital until 5:30 am. It was too late.

[Ohiophinphan]

Just when you thought the story couldn't get any worse................

I am very, very sorry for the loss to you and your family!

The rest of our talk can continue in our pm exchange.

[Jeffrey]

I've been going over and over what happened in my head. Words cannot describe how I feel when I think about my brother being abandoned on the side of the road and left to die. I think about all of the people who must have seen my brother in need of help, but decided to just keep walking. Or the person(s) who did stop, but proceeded to take my brothers wallet and check his pockets for anything else of value.

[Boik14]

Brian, what you have gone through is not something many people could make it through without losing the ability to see the world clearly and objectively. Going through what you went through at that age has to be difficult to live with everyday but be an example of strength because one day your story will impact someone else and show it is possible to get through these things and live a happy, successful life.

I live through this every day as well. The first time I ever really went away was when I was 20 and had just finished community college. I was working in a sleep-away camp that summer to make a little extra dough before going away to school. My best friend died that summer on a wave runner. Had I been home he probably never would have been on the wave runner since I was usually to busy beating him in a game of hoops or some video game (usually NHL Hockey) and never really liked wave runners. Sometimes things happen outside of our control. Its easy to ask "what if" or to contemplate taking the easy way out of situations but it isnt the solution to anything from my own experience. The solution is to live everyday and to let the people you love know that youre there for them too. Myself and my friends started a charity for him and gave money to help our local high school students who had grades but not funds for college. Honor your brothers and stay strong bro :)

[Sethdaddy8]

your story breaks my heart. i admire that you and your parents have the strength to merely function and carry on. as a father and a brother, i cant fathom the pain and loss. i wish you the best at finding your pockets of happiness, pushing forward, and celebrating your own life in honor of your brothers. its what they would have wanted im sure.
i will have your story in my head for quite some time, and i take your father's "get a grip" message to heart, as my kid(s) grow older.

and welcome to the site. it usually isnt this crazy here, but its Jest week.

[Jeffrey]

I'm losing it.

[Sethdaddy8]

I'm losing it.

hang in there brother.

[unluckyluciano]

hang in there bro. ull make it through.

[Jeffrey]

You sure about that?

[unluckyluciano]

You sure about that?

yup uve made it this far.

[Jeffrey]

Far is relative.

[unluckyluciano]

Far is relative.

lost two brothers, graduated college, you're still going, id say you're pretty damn far.

[Jeffrey]

I believe that my brother Dave was killed. I know he chose to take that shot of heroin, but his "friend" left him out to dry. He might as well have put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger.

At the wake, Dave's friend Jack was approached by Mike, one of Dave's friends from high school. Mike and a couple other people wanted the "green light" to murder these scumbags. Since Jack isn't a scumbag, he didn't give them the greenlight. He said and I quote...."It wouldn't bring Dave back."

Looking back on that....I wish that Jack had given the green light.

[unluckyluciano]

I believe that my brother Dave was killed. I know he chose to take that shot of heroin, but his "friend" left him out to dry. He might as well have put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger.

At the wake, Dave's friend Jack was approached by Mike, one of Dave's friends from high school. Mike and a couple other people wanted the "green light" to murder these scumbags. Since Jack isn't a scumbag, he didn't give them the greenlight. He said and I quote...."It wouldn't bring Dave back."

Looking back on that....I wish that Jack had given the green light.

you want revenge. Who wouldn't?
You're friend jack is right though. If the friend was killed, who would benefit? Your brothers friends would go to prison, a person would be dead, how many more families would be destroyed. you're angry, and sad. I understand I would be too.

[Boik14]

They were not friends. And those f***ing junkies deserved to be murdered. THEY DESTROYED MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!So destroying someone elses family would make you feel better? What they did was wrong no question but nothing that could be said or done is bring your brother back right? So whats the point?

What destroyed your family wasnt anyone else then your brother deciding to stick a needle in his arm. Those other kids were probably blitzed themselves...obviously they werent very good friends but at the same time they arent your brothers keeper.

[Jeffrey]

I'm back.

[gunn34]

I'm glad. Stay strong Jeffrey. You can show the world, you're a survivor. You have certainly proved it to all of us.

[Jeffrey]

I had an epiphany in Orlando the other night. I can tell you the entire story if you want, but I found God.

[azfinfanmang]

Good to see you back :hi5:

[Jeffrey]

Thank you to whoever unlocked this thread. I was offended when I found out that someone had locked it.

[Ohiophinphan]

While I wasn't the one who locked it, I agreed with the decision. Not to disrespect you but because some of the answers were not going well in the discussion. In what was intended to be a compassionate act on your behalf, we didn't want anything more that would have upset you. The result might not have been what you wanted but the motive was a good one.

I am happy for your epiphany and would be delighted to hear about it. Perhaps you would send me a pm or maybe make a thread in the religion forum. Some will challenge you but that is a generally respectful place.

Welcome back!

[Jeffrey]

Thanks for being one of the few people who actually care. I know that there are people on this site that hate me for whatever reason. But you know what? I don't care. People can knit pick me to death but they don't know or care what I'm going through, so it doesn't matter to me. And my gut feeling is being confirmed by the minute as people don't respond to my messages or friend requests.

[Jeffrey]

Not surprised that no one responded. I came here to reach out for help and I got banned for 10 days, then ignored.

Thanks.

[Jt0323]

Not surprised that no one responded. I came here to reach out for help and I got banned for 10 days, then ignored.

Thanks.

You are not being ignored... People may not have read this thread, or they just don't have an answer or anything to say...its not because you are being ignored... Also it's only been a couple of hours. you need to give people more time to respond.

[SICK]

plus it was 3 in the morning, most people are asleep......or in the ladies lounge haha

jeffrey im here to talk if you ever need anything, you can pm me....we have been chatting VIA visitor messages......i work till 530ish however, and if i cant respond during the day....you know why. i dont have access to thephins at work, enless i sneak on my phone during a break or something.

[Jeffrey]

I'm just really disappointed with how I feel like every word I say is knit picked to death. I feel like people are just looking for an excuse to ban me again. I just want people to not treat me like I'm an outcast. Which is how I get treated in real life seemingly everywhere I go. Just please cut me some slack. That's all I ask. Don't send me an infraction and ban me over something small. I'm not sitting here cursing people out or threatening anyone. I'm just trying to reach out for some help.

The hand over the fist.

[TrueDolFan]

Your supposed issues are just too big and too personal for you to expect results from talking with people on a Miami Dolphins internet forum.

If indeed your stories are all true, what you should do is get some therapy for your issues in a professional environment, with mental health professionals.

Just my 2 cents, bro. :knucks:

[Jeffrey]

Your supposed issues are just too big and too personal for you to expect results from talking with people on a Miami Dolphins internet forum.

If indeed your stories are all true, what you should do is get some therapy for your issues in a professional environment, with mental health professionals.

Just my 2 cents, bro. :knucks:

Why are you using words like "supposed" and then you go on to say that "If indeed your stories are all true".........are you calling me a liar?

Is that whats going on here? You all think I'm a liar? TrueDolFan did you even click the link and read my familys story? www.drugfree.org is a real website. You think I'm making this up? I WISH I WAS MAKING THIS UP.

And I don't think its a coincidence that you have "Minion of Satan" next to your picture and you're sitting there implying that I'm a liar. Do me a favor and don't respond on my thread again. Thank you.

[Boik14]

Why are you using words like "supposed" and then you go on to say that "If indeed your stories are all true".........are you calling me a liar?

Is that whats going on here? You all think I'm a liar? TrueDolFan did you even click the link and read my familys story? www.drugfree.org is a real website. You think I'm making this up? I WISH I WAS MAKING THIS UP.

And I don't think its a coincidence that you have "Minion of Satan" next to your picture and you're sitting there implying that I'm a liar. Do me a favor and don't respond on my thread again. Thank you.Instead of focusing on the one word of the statement you didnt like, which you are taking entirely out of context by the way, may be you need to focus on the rest of his statement which is true. If you dont like someone you have the option to ignore them but you arent going to sit there and tell people which threads to respond to. Sorry, thats just not happening. Also, youre going to want to learn how to speak nicer to people. Calling someone a "Minion of Satan" is rude when hes simply trying to help. Either you want the help or you want to be disruptive but it wont be both. Im sorry that youre in the situation youre in but thats not an excuse for the way you responded.

[Jeffrey]

Instead of focusing on the one word of the statement you didnt like, which you are taking entirely out of context by the way, may be you need to focus on the rest of his statement which is true. If you dont like someone you have the option to ignore them but you arent going to sit there and tell people which threads to respond to. Sorry, thats just not happening. Also, youre going to want to learn how to speak nicer to people. Calling someone a "Minion of Satan" is rude when hes simply trying to help. Either you want the help or you want to be disruptive but it wont be both. Im sorry that youre in the situation youre in but thats not an excuse for the way you responded.

Focus on the rest of his statement? You mean the part where he said that I need to seek therapy? What else? Do you know how many times I've been to therapy? Do you know how many times people have suggested that I seek therapy? Um....it says Minion of Satan next to his picture, like I said. How am I calling him what it says next to his picture? That makes no sense. He wrote it. Not me. Honestly I don't want your help. All you seem to do is attack me and I'm tired of it.

[Sethdaddy8]

Focus on the rest of his statement? You mean the part where he said that I need to seek therapy? What else? Do you know how many times I've been to therapy? Do you know how many times people have suggested that I seek therapy? Um....it says Minion of Satan next to his picture, like I said. How am I calling him what it says next to his picture? That makes no sense. He wrote it. Not me. Honestly I don't want your help. All you seem to do is attack me and I'm tired of it.

bro, you need to realize that you have only been here for a few weeks. some of us have known eachother for years. and though some of us have all met and hung out, this is still the internet. there's always an air of misunderstanding, misinterpretation, and uncertainty. you asked for help and people here are nice and trying to help you. every post in this thread is a gift to you, and yet you judge peoples offerings. or say they aren't offering enough.

you seem young and confused and hurt. the fact seems to be that you aren't ready or willing to allow yourself to feel better. you want to stay angry. thats something you need to figure out. but don't think you're the only person on here who's suffered and been through a tragedy. been to hell and back. how you handle it is ultimately up to you. just remember, you aren't a guy we have all known for years, and have any proof of seeing or spending time with, nor have a long standing friendship with. but we give you the benefit of the doubt, and do the best we can by you. because at the end of the day, all we are qualified to give is a half-assed opinion on the Miami Dolphins and why the Jets suck.

[TrueDolFan]

Look, "Jeffrey", I said what I said because I was giving my advice to a dude who went out of his way to start a thread looking for advice. It's NOT an insult for somebody to advise you to seek professional help.

ThePHINS.com is a very close-knit community of users, and to me, I find it VERY odd that somebody would join our site, and within a few days start carrying on about how he's picked on everywhere he goes, that people "stalk" him on the internet, how he's tired of being judged, and tell total strangers his life story via a convenient web link.

Regardless of whether what you claim is true or not, I believe that you have very real, very deep issues you need help with, brother. The fact that you sent me a PM telling me "you think you're smooth, don't you" and "I know what you're trying to do" is evidence of that.

I wish you well, and I hope you get the counseling you need.

[Boik14]

Focus on the rest of his statement? You mean the part where he said that I need to seek therapy? What else? Do you know how many times I've been to therapy? Do you know how many times people have suggested that I seek therapy? Um....it says Minion of Satan next to his picture, like I said. How am I calling him what it says next to his picture? That makes no sense. He wrote it. Not me. Honestly I don't want your help. All you seem to do is attack me and I'm tired of it.I made no such attack of you personally. I dont do that. You just didnt like the answer I gave which frankly I cant help you with. Again, the context with which you are taking peoples statements is incorrect; I read his sig and I read what you wrote. The two are entirely different.

[anlgp]

I've been a part of this board for roughly a year now, and what the regulars want to do here is help you.

The internet being what it is sometimes posts can be taken out of context. It's very easy.

FWIW I'm a psychology major and this stuff definitely falls under the 'you need help' category. That's not an insult to your person, but a reality. There's nothing wrong with needing help in life.

I've got several things that I need to go see a therapist about, but haven't been able to due to financial reasons. I don't see this as a dash to my character. It's just something I need to do to help me fix some things that have happened in my past.

Once I get the $ to go I will go. And whenever medicaid kicks in is when that will be.

I suggest that you see if you're available for medicaid if $ is the issue, or call a therapist and ask what their rates are, and what you can expect before going. Maybe see if you can go talk to them about talking to them. Also you have to find one that you can open up to because otherwise it will be useless.

Sometimes there are just things that you can't figure out on your own and you need someone who has devoted their time to figuring out what makes people tick.

Best of luck.

[Jeffrey]

Look, "Jeffrey", I said what I said because I was giving my advice to a dude who went out of his way to start a thread looking for advice. It's NOT an insult for somebody to advise you to seek professional help.

ThePHINS.com is a very close-knit community of users, and to me, I find it VERY odd that somebody would join our site, and within a few days start carrying on about how he's picked on everywhere he goes, that people "stalk" him on the internet, how he's tired of being judged, and tell total strangers his life story via a convenient web link.

Regardless of whether what you claim is true or not, I believe that you have very real, very deep issues you need help with, brother. The fact that you sent me a PM telling me "you think you're smooth, don't you" and "I know what you're trying to do" is evidence of that.

I wish you well, and I hope you get the counseling you need.

See.....now I'm starting to regret reaching out for help because people like you have to somehow try and throw it in my face. Just because I'm new here means that I couldn't post about whats going on in my life? You know how many times I've told complete strangers my life story? You think you have the right to tell me when and where I can tell my life story? HOW DARE YOU.

I've spoke in front of hundreds of people before and told my life story, so has my father. You want to judge him too?

[Static XIII]

You are searching for something that you are not going to find here, and getting angry at the people on this board will not bring it any closer.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks for the tip.

[TrueDolFan]

See.....now I'm starting to regret reaching out for help because people like you have to somehow try and throw it in my face. Just because I'm new here means that I couldn't post about whats going on in my life? You know how many times I've told complete strangers my life story? You think you have the right to tell me when and where I can tell my life story? HOW DARE YOU.

I've spoke in front of hundreds of people before and told my life story, so has my father. You want to judge him too?

WHAT? :no: Like the Gapper said, nobody here is doing anything other than trying to help you.

I don't know what you want to hear, but it appears that no matter what anybody says, it won't be good enough for you. You seem hell-bent on creating conflict, that is a very self-destructive behavior, brother.

Good luck.

[Boik14]

See.....now I'm starting to regret reaching out for help because people like you have to somehow try and throw it in my face. Just because I'm new here means that I couldn't post about whats going on in my life? You know how many times I've told complete strangers my life story? You think you have the right to tell me when and where I can tell my life story? HOW DARE YOU.

I've spoke in front of hundreds of people before and told my life story, so has my father. You want to judge him too?

No one is throwing anything in your face. You have a me vs the world attitude and misconstrue peoples intentions as such. This board has welcomes you and tried to support you but you continuously push people away with negativity and rudeness. The situation you're in is truly awful but that doesn't give you the right to talk to people however you want. All the anger in the world isn't going to change your situation, its only going to alienate people trying to help you.

[Jeffrey]

Rudeness? I honestly don't think I've been rude at all. Hey moderator.....do me a favor and lock the thread like you did before. Thanks a lot.

[TrueDolFan]

Saying stuff like that to the mods is not cool, bro.

People have tried to help you, and you refuse their advice and insult them for their troubles. You really should quit while you're ahead...

[Jeffrey]

Saying what to the mods? I asked him to lock the thread politely. Can you please stop attacking me? Thanks bro.

[unluckyluciano]

i think both you guys are overreacting and misreading one another. I think you both should just make out now as a sign of peace :escape2:

[Boik14]

Rudeness? I honestly don't think I've been rude at all. Hey moderator.....do me a favor and lock the thread like you did before. Thanks a lot.

I did not lock it before. You may wish to get your facts straight. Flinging accusations people is rude as is implying someone is a "minion of satan". I'm not going to debate it with you; I'm not asking for your opinion here. I'm saying based on the standards we have established here we don't do things like that.

[Jeffrey]

When I said "hey moderator", I wasn't referring to specifically you. I was just speaking generally. Thanks.

[Samphin]

Okay, I am going to come out and say it. I don't believe that this story is 100% accurate.

In fact, can someone check and see when Jeffrey signed up? I am pretty sure he signed up during Jets week...which seem a little bit too convenient for me.

Maybe the internet, television and life in general has made me the jaded prick I am today, but something just isn't right with this story or at very least, the storyteller. How do we know that this is his family's story?

Jeffrey, I have known a lot of these people for over seven years now. I can safely say that while the members are plenty, they are a close bunch. And quite frankly. I don't take too kindly to someone new calling them out or insinuating that their intentions aren't what they say they are.

Everyone in this thread has been VERY respectful to your plight (whether or not they believe it), and you have done nothing but throw it back in their faces looking for a slight that isn't there.

If you are telling the truth, I feel sorry for you, as that is a rough road to travel. But I honestly, don't know what else you want from people on a Miami Dolphins message board. People have offered up their e-mail addresses, private message options and sound, solid advice to seemingly a stranger. Why? Because they are cool like that.

In closing, I will tell you this, I am pretty sure that this specific forum was implemented for two reasons. One of which, I will not speak on, but the other involves me so I will. Earlier this year, I relapsed on heroin, had a mini nervous breakdown and lashed out at just about everyone on here and telling the owners (guys that I have known for a long time and have giving me a lot of slack on their sites) that I no longer wish to be a part of their community.

What happened? They e-mailed me, called me, instant messaged me and more. And why? Not because I post on here, but because they genuinely cared for my well being. That is the type of community that they have built here. And shortyl after this ordeal, this outreach forum was created, for no other reason than for fellow members to ask for help from other members. And I will be damned to see someone, such as yourself, come in here and crap all over it.

I think you need to go back and re-read your post and see where the FIRST bone of contention came from. It was certainly from you, calling out ohiophinphan. A man I have had the pleasure of spending a few minutes with in person back in April at the NFL Draft party. He is a good man, a very patient man (afterall, he tolerated my annoying ass for the duration of our conversation), and very genuine. For you to act like he doesn't care is insulting.

Anyone who reads these forums cares. Clearly.

Good luck to you.

[slickj101]

:hammertime:

[Samphin]

:hammertime:

That's your answer for everything.

[slickj101]

That's your answer for everything.

It really is universal.

[Samphin]

It really is universal.

Yeah but between that and Tyson right below it, I started to think that it was 1991 all over again. Quite frankly, I am sad that it isn't...

[Ohiophinphan]

Okay, I am going to come out and say it. I don't believe that this story is 100% accurate.

In fact, can someone check and see when Jeffrey signed up? I am pretty sure he signed up during Jets week...which seem a little bit too convenient for me.

Maybe the internet, television and life in general has made me the jaded prick I am today, but something just isn't right with this story or at very least, the storyteller. How do we know that this is his family's story?

Jeffrey, I have known a lot of these people for over seven years now. I can safely say that while the members are plenty, they are a close bunch. And quite frankly. I don't take too kindly to someone new calling them out or insinuating that their intentions aren't what they say they are.

Everyone in this thread has been VERY respectful to your plight (whether or not they believe it), and you have done nothing but throw it back in their faces looking for a slight that isn't there.

If you are telling the truth, I feel sorry for you, as that is a rough road to travel. But I honestly, don't know what else you want from people on a Miami Dolphins message board. People have offered up their e-mail addresses, private message options and sound, solid advice to seemingly a stranger. Why? Because they are cool like that.

In closing, I will tell you this, I am pretty sure that this specific forum was implemented for two reasons. One of which, I will not speak on, but the other involves me so I will. Earlier this year, I relapsed on heroin, had a mini nervous breakdown and lashed out at just about everyone on here and telling the owners (guys that I have known for a long time and have giving me a lot of slack on their sites) that I no longer wish to be a part of their community.

What happened? They e-mailed me, called me, instant messaged me and more. And why? Not because I post on here, but because they genuinely cared for my well being. That is the type of community that they have built here. And shortyl after this ordeal, this outreach forum was created, for no other reason than for fellow members to ask for help from other members. And I will be damned to see someone, such as yourself, come in here and crap all over it.

I think you need to go back and re-read your post and see where the FIRST bone of contention came from. It was certainly from you, calling out ohiophinphan. A man I have had the pleasure of spending a few minutes with in person back in April at the NFL Draft party. He is a good man, a very patient man (afterall, he tolerated my annoying ass for the duration of our conversation), and very genuine. For you to act like he doesn't care is insulting.

Anyone who reads these forums cares. Clearly.

Good luck to you.

Thank you very much! I have sorta made this forum "mine". Many people whether they are religious or not want a little help. The religion and spiritually forum didn't address everyone and thus this one was created as you said to reach out to everyone. It is a good place.

And truth be known, I had a great time with you in Jersey last April. If you remember I was coming to that party after conducting a memorial service for an estranged cousin, the last of my Mom's relatives. I wasn't in the best of shape emotionally that day and appreciated the warm greetings of this crew more than most of you will ever know!

[slickj101]

Yeah but between that and Tyson right below it, I started to think that it was 1991 all over again. Quite frankly, I am sad that it isn't...

91 was a ****in great year.

Wiiiiiiide right!

[Jeffrey]

I don't care if you think I'm a liar. But I would appreciate if you didn't imply that I was one. I asked to have this thread closed because I am tired of being offended. Thank you.

[Samphin]

I don't care if you think I'm a liar. But I would appreciate if you didn't imply that I was one. I asked to have this thread closed because I am tired of being offended. Thank you.

ps slickj, what was the point of posting that?

I tend to agree with you here. This thread should be closed and held up as an example of what happens when LIARS take advantage of the kindness of others.

You're last line has me convinced that you are putting us on. As an expert of picking internet fights, I know what you are up to.

[Jeffrey]

Please stop offending me.

[SICK]

i was 4 in 1991.............................

[azfinfanmang]

I wasn't in the best of shape emotionally that day and appreciated the warm greetings of this crew more than most of you will ever know!

That my friend is what we refer to as Karmatic return :hi5: