Glutamine

[gofins]

Need some reassurance. I have always heard that Glutamine was a great supplement. Works very well. But lately on another forum I heard it was a waste. Never found out how or why. Maybe it isn't absorbed well? Also, what are your opinions on OKG? I personally used the stuff and enjoyed great gains. More than I did without it. Also heard that OKG is worthless. That really surprised me.

[DonShula84]

I have a friend who started using Glutamine not too long ago and likes his results. It's supposed to help with recovery isnt it?

[azfinfanmang]

I have a friend who started using Glutamine not too long ago and likes his results. It's supposed to help with recovery isnt it?

I was gonna mention that Recovery is where Glutamine is really supposed to help. Helps the Muscle Tissue recover after workouts (Sure Jcow or somebody more in the technical end can give more in depth).

I used Glutamine about the same time I started using Creatine. I did get results, not sure from which.

I still use Creatine but havent used Glutamine in a couple of years now...so not sure what was really working.

[FreeStyle]

Great muscle recovery.

I use it after long days of cardio,treadmill,crosstrainer and basketball.

[gofins]

Glutamine does help with recovery. I was just surprised when all of a sudden, it was being bashed on the other website. I always heard nothing but good about glutamine.

[gofins]

I was gonna mention that Recovery is where Glutamine is really supposed to help. Helps the Muscle Tissue recover after workouts (Sure Jcow or somebody more in the technical end can give more in depth).

I used Glutamine about the same time I started using Creatine. I did get results, not sure from which.

I still use Creatine but havent used Glutamine in a couple of years now...so not sure what was really working.
I am pretty sure the creatine had more to do with the noticeable results than the glutamine. Nothing against glutamine, tho. Just remember to drink tons of water when using creatine. Also, take creatine with a fruit juice or other sugar ang stay away from caffeine. Sugar helps absorption of creatine and caffiene may hurt it.

[azfinfanmang]

I am pretty sure the creatine had more to do with the noticeable results than the glutamine. Nothing against glutamine, tho. Just remember to drink tons of water when using creatine. Also, take creatine with a fruit juice or other sugar ang stay away from caffeine. Sugar helps absorption of creatine and caffiene may hurt it.


Yeah, I got the water thing down to a fine Science. I drink at least 100 ounces a day... pretty much every single day. More on workout day :up:

[JCowScot]

I was gonna mention that Recovery is where Glutamine is really supposed to help. Helps the Muscle Tissue recover after workouts (Sure Jcow or somebody more in the technical end can give more in depth).

I used Glutamine about the same time I started using Creatine. I did get results, not sure from which.

I still use Creatine but havent used Glutamine in a couple of years now...so not sure what was really working.

Awww...I'm so glad you think of me as being technical...:lol:

Anyway, to prove your point:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm (http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm)

To sum up simply, glutamine helps aid in protein synthesis by the muscles. Whether it 'works' or not really depends on your level of supplementation and workout schedule. Most good protein powders now include this AA as well as BCAA's (Branch-Chain Amino Acids) to help aid in absorbing the extra protein. So, unless you are taking large amounts of supplemental protein (with no additives) and/or not giving yourself enough recovery time in between workouts to build your glutamine stores back up, IMO it's not worth it.

Same with OKG- redundacy. The reason you hear both good and bad things about it and L-Glutamine is b/c most people don't train and eat to the extremes that bodybuilders do. If you are training on a reasonable scedule, eating right and getting enough rest, glutamine supplementation isn't usually necessary-but that's not to say it doesn't work/help.

If I were you, I'd look for a good whey protein powder that includes l-glutamine, l-arginine, and the three BCAA's: leucine, isoleucine, and valine. All aid in protein synthesis and help to prevent protein degredation in muscle tissue(as well as other things). This will save you a bit of money, and keep you from coming down with what I call 'supplementitis'.:up:

Hope this helps.

[Coral Reefer]

Awww...I'm so glad you think of me as being technical...:lol:

Anyway, to prove your point:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm (http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm)

To sum up simply, glutamine helps aid in protein synthesis by the muscles. Whether it 'works' or not really depends on your level of supplementation and workout schedule. Most good protein powders now include this AA as well as BCAA's (Branch-Chain Amino Acids) to help aid in absorbing the extra protein. So, unless you are taking large amounts of supplemental protein (with no additives) and/or not giving yourself enough recovery time in between workouts to build your glutamine stores back up, IMO it's not worth it.

Same with OKG- redundacy. The reason you hear both good and bad things about it and L-Glutamine is b/c most people don't train and eat to the extremes that bodybuilders do. If you are training on a reasonable scedule, eating right and getting enough rest, glutamine supplementation isn't usually necessary-but that's not to say it doesn't work/help.

If I were you, I'd look for a good whey protein powder that includes l-glutamine, l-arginine, and the three BCAA's: leucine, isoleucine, and valine. All aid in protein synthesis and help to prevent protein degredation in muscle tissue(as well as other things). This will save you a bit of money, and keep you from coming down with what I call 'supplementitis'.:up:

Hope this helps.


well that's some good information but I'd offer those interested in supplementation and the potential affects whether positive or not take any information coming from the traditional medical community with a grain of salt.

The vast majority of physicians are trained in a world with a focus on reactive medicine or diseases and what type of treatments or drugs can be used to reverse something. Many really lack expertise to effectively guide people on any supplementation and the medical community as a whole has chosen to treat nutrition science as a taboo rather than embracing it.

[Big E]

Great muscle recovery.

I use it after long days of cardio,treadmill,crosstrainer and basketball.

Are u really 75 doin all this stuff?:shifty:

[JCowScot]

well that's some good information but I'd offer those interested in supplementation and the potential affects whether positive or not take any information coming from the traditional medical community with a grain of salt.

The vast majority of physicians are trained in a world with a focus on reactive medicine or diseases and what type of treatments or drugs can be used to reverse something. Many really lack expertise to effectively guide people on any supplementation and the medical community as a whole has chosen to treat nutrition science as a taboo rather than embracing it.

Yes, I would agree with you as to using the established medical community to determine the potential positive/negative effects of nutritional supplements. I just happened to use that link b/c it gave an easy-to-understand explanation of what gultamine is and how it works in the body. As far as what they stated it's good for/not good for, well, as you said- take it with a grain of salt.

The traditional 'western' medical community has always had a problem with being proactive, especially when it comes to nutrition and muscular health. I don't see that changing anytime soon. In fact, I wouldn't trust most MD's to give good training advice further than I could throw them.:lol:

Very good addendum. Thanks for pointing that out, Reefer.:up:

[FreeStyle]

Are u really 75 doin all this stuff?:shifty:


Glutamine works, even at my age.:yes:

[Al13]

i would also like to have some stuff that will help me build some more muscles and lose some fat, but in germany this stuff is to expensive to use it on a regular basis

[JCowScot]

i would also like to have some stuff that will help me build some more muscles and lose some fat, but in germany this stuff is to expensive to use it on a regular basis

Most of it is also not healthy for you(fat burners). They artificially raise your metabolism, and can also raise your HR, BP and cause palpitations. Unless you are looking into doing BB competitively, or are so vain that the mirror thinks you're in love with it:lol:- then a good, healthy diet* and moderate exercise every day interspersed w/ intense workouts every 3-5 days should produce the results you're looking for fairly quickly. I am not a big fan of 'weight-loss' supplements, especially coupled with other supplements designed to build muscle.:no: Not a good combination. Even the most hardcore BB will tell you do one or the other and not both (at the same time).


*By 'good, healthy diet' I mean a 50/40/10 (or thereabouts) ratio of carbs/protein/fats and frequent (every 3-4 hrs) small meals high in whole grains and fruits/vegs. If you're looking to lose 5-15lbs, then you could cut your daily calories down to about 1500-2000 and lose the weight in about 2 wks or so. Did it myself a couple months back. Let me know if you want the exact meal plan I used.:up: